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Monitor vs Warrior by RadoJavor Monitor vs Warrior by RadoJavor
I like to think about history and alternative history also. This is a vision of different historical line. British empire is intervening in American civil war on the side of Confederation. The first ironclads in the world fight against each other. The biggest ships in the world at time British HMS Warrior and Black Prince against smaller heavy armored American Monitors. I've read many articles about this fictional battle, still its not clear which ship can win.
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:icon1wyrmshadow1:
In an engagement like this... ramming the Monitor would be the best bet. 
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:iconwankers-cramp:
This would be good for a new Total War Game.
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:iconnikolai60:
In open seas the Monitor would be doomed because she was so low, however, in a harbor the Monitor possessed superior armor and presented a smaller target than the Warrior and Black Prince, and if allowed to use her 15 inch Dahlgrens at full powder load would easily rip holes in the British ships. The British ships, as they were historically equipped, would have significant trouble penetrating 8 inch layered plate with their much lighter armament, though if allowed heavier guns, instead of attempting to show off the less reliable breech-loading ones, their large number of broadside guns may have been able to tear apart the Monitor.
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:iconebolarocks08:
Seeing as the United States had no ocean-going ironclads, and the United Kingdom had about seven at the time, I would say that the Union would be doomed... At sea, at least >_>...

This is a truly wonderful painting. I always wondered what it would look like if the United Kingdom engaged the United States in combat around this time.
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DarkAngel5252 Oct 31, 2013
Damn you are so good ive been looking at all yuour pics and i just love em


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In the real world, however, it was an undecided.   :-)
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Zektrannus25735 Jul 4, 2013  Student Writer
It likely would have ended in a draw, both ships running out of ammunition eventually, due to the problem most navies had with early ironclads. They could build and sail them, but no one knew how to sink one.
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The Warrior and Black Prince had significantly lighter armor, and after that first battle, most Monitors were allowed to fire with double the powder with the smaller XI inch Dahlgrens, and most were just upgraded to the massive XV inch Dahlgrens, which would tear through most armor with undeniable efficiency (such guns were planned but not available in time to counter the Virginia). In open seas the Warrior and Black Prince would simply have to wait for the Monitor to founder, but in a harbor the little ships ended up capable of massive damage.
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Zektrannus25735 Jan 22, 2014  Student Writer
True, the warrior and Monitor were both built with different combat scenario's in mind, The warrior for the open sea, the Monitor for close in harbor attacks and river patrols. Neither was ever meant to fight the others fight, and the Monitor was unquestionably ahead of its time in design and practical firepower, and it would have only needed one too shot to put the Warrior underwater. However, I still think the battles outcome would be determined by the battlefield itself and where these ships, if they ever had, chose to engage one another. 

HMS Warrior vs. CSS Virginia though, that would be a more even match up.
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:iconnikolai60:
Agreed, environment would determine that one.

Maybe, the Virginia wasn't exactly seaworthy herself, plus her painfully slow everything would probably mean the Warrior would have her in a fight either way, though again the Warrior's poorer armaments and non-uniform armor might negate any speed bonus. I have spent WAY too much time learning the various details of these ships....
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